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WHY does Minnesota bother to require printing all the UNCONTESTED judicial elections on the ballot? What conceivable good does this do anyone?

It would make sense if they actually counted write-in votes, but I learned recently that Minnesota does not count write-in votes unless requested to do so by the particular write-in candidate, and that they only count write-in votes for candidates who have formally requested such counting.

I happen to know (I used to be one of them, but that's not the only reason) that there are a lot of people out there who are afraid their ballots will be discarded, and all of their votes ignored, if they don't vote in every single contest on the ballot. I happen to know now that's not the case (at least not in Minnesota), but I remember the time I wasted trying to research these useless votes in uncontested races where the press published practically nothing about the candidates in these races. Multiply that by all the other poor souls who haven't discovered Naomi Kritzer yet! And no, Naomi doesn't bother researching these contests that have no effect on anything either. It would be a waste of everyone's time.

Date: 2020-10-11 03:22 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dreamshark
Good question. I didn't know that write-in votes are usually not counted, which pretty much removes the only reason to list them.

Date: 2020-10-11 03:54 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] quility
I had always worried my ballot wouldn't be counted if I didn't vote for everything. Thank you for passing that along. :)

Date: 2020-10-11 04:02 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pameladean
I knew I didn't have to fill those out, but I still got a shock when I first turned over the ballot, until I saw there was only one actual race and I recognized the names (thanks, Naomi).

I can only surmise that they think it's important or may be important for some races that the write-in candidate be able to find out how many votes they got.

I don't mind their printing all the people running unopposed; but they don't do a great job of letting voters know that they don't have to fill in all those bubbles.

P.

Date: 2020-10-11 12:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] redbird
I suspect that's one of the things that they don't tell you because they know it, the people they're talking to regularly know it, and they forget that we didn't all learn it from our parents or our grade school teachers. I hadn't realized that people thought they had to vote on everything for it to count, because my parents were active in local politics when I was growing up, so I heard quite a few conversations about how many more people vote for president than for congress, and how many more vote for mayor than for judges.

I got to the bottom of the Massachusetts ballot this year, saw that we had a question 3 that was labeled as "non-binding," and commented that I don't trust "non-binding" referenda given Brexit, so stopped and thought about it. Our question 3 is a motherhood-and-apple-pie version of "we should move to renewables, and create jobs" and isn't even in the official state ballot guide.

This year I think I abstained from one ballot question because I'm honestly not sure if the law in question would be a good idea.

Date: 2020-10-11 05:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lcohen
in illinois, not voting for a candidate is counted as a "no" vote so i use not voting for an uncontested candidate as a way to say "not them." this is more useful for judges, i think.

Date: 2020-10-11 06:21 pm (UTC)
bibliofile: Fan & papers in a stack (from my own photo) (Default)
From: [personal profile] bibliofile
Well it used to be that recording all the write-in names was a thing, in Chicago and in Wisconsin. During a big election, that was a lot of work for two pollworkers (out of six or ten or whatever) at the end of a very long day. But if the slot isn't on the ballot, no one can write anything in, right?

(I did hear, a long time ago, that some researchers did go and look at the write-in names, [waves hand vaguely] to try to gain insight into the moods of the voters. The times I had that task on election day, there were the predictable ("none of the above," "my mom"), the inscrutable (names that no one recognized), and the annoying ("does anyone really read this?"). A mixed bag, but we did it because we followed the rules.

In the last ten years or so, Wisconsin changed the rules and gave up on all that nonsense. Now, anyone running as a write-in candidate has to let the elections folks know ahead of time, and the poll workers record only the votes for those specific people.)

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